Podcast

Josh talks to Kat Cosgrove about a how companies should be treating open source more like their critical infrastructure than free stuff. Kat has a ton of knowledge about how the interactions between companies and open source communities can work well, or not work at all. Kat’s time on the Kubernetes Release Team. We touch on how a project like Kubernetes is super successful, while another, Ingress NGINX, was not. It’s a super insightful discussion with a ton of lessons and advice for everyone. ...

Josh and David finish up the disaster recovery and emergency planning trilogy. In this one David tells us how to test the plan he told us how to build in the last episode. There are some great ideas in this one about how to test the process not the people. How to construct the plan, and even some tips to go from a plan to some actual real world testing. It’s another episode filled with great and practical advice. ...

Josh has a discussion with Vlad-Stefan Harbuz about the Open Source Pledge as well as his recent FOSDEM talk. The Open Source Pledge is all about trying to build a sustainable universe for open source maintainers. This ties into Vlad’s FOSDEM talk which was all about the challenge of just knowing what open source you are using. The importance of trying to make open source sustainable is a really important topic, but it’s also a really hard topic. Vlad helps explain all of this as well as some ideas for the solving this in the future. ...

Josh welcomes back David Bernstein to talk about creating a disaster recover plan. It’s a very timely topic given all the current events. There are more supply chain attacks and compromises than ever before. There are some great resources for this planning, but as David tells us, it’s really not that hard to put some plans together. It’s easy to over-plan, David gives some great tips on getting started with our planning for an eventual incident. ...

Josh talks to Paul McCarty of Open Source Malware about … open source malware. Paul explains why there aren’t many good open source malware datasets. We discuss why the existing data is lacking for many use cases. We of course touch on AI and the malware in skills problems and challenges. It’s a fun discussion with a lot of new and interesting problems we all have to deal with. Episode Links Paul McCarty Open Source Malware Open Source Malware Blog This episode is also available as a podcast, search for “Open Source Security” on your favorite podcast player. ...

Josh welcomes back Andrew Nesbitt to discuss some recent blog posts he wrote about the challenges of new ecosystems as well as challenges of no ecosystems like C. There aren’t very many people who look at multiple ecosystems in the way Andrew does. He has thoughts on why it’s so hard to create a new ecosystem as well as some of the reasons we don’t see a C language ecosystem. Andrew has a ton of interesting ideas and insight for us about both existing, new, and nonexistent ecosystems. ...

Josh talks to Michael Winser about a talk he gave at FOSDEM as well as his work on Alpha Omega at the Linux Foundation. Michael is approaching open source security in a way that nobody has ever tried before. What if we could fund some really big, really hard projects? It’s not cheap or easy, but he’s getting it done. We spend a lot of the time discussing package registries, which are a huge topic. Michael is doing some amazing work helping package registries which is the first step in a very long journey. ...

Josh chats with Brian Fox from Sonatype about their 2026 State of the Software Supply Chain report. Most of the number continue to grow at alarming rates, but there’s some new interesting findings in this one. We discuss end of life and open source which is tough to define. We touch on what using AI with open source dependencies looks like (and why it’s broken), and we discuss the challenge of upgrading your open source dependencies in a way that doesn’t break everything. It’s a great report and great discussion. ...

Josh talks to Luke Hinds, CEO of Always Further, about MCP and agent security. We start out talking about Luke’s new tool, nono which is a sandboxing tool that has AI agents in mind as a use case. We explain what MCP and agents are doing as well as why it’s so hard to secure them. It’s not impossible, but it’s not simple either. We end the show by discussing some of the more human aspects to security and how history may be repeating itself with security folks laughing at new users who don’t know any better. ...

Josh talks to Paul Kehrer and Alex Gaynor, from the Python Cryptographic Authority. Alex and Paul recently published a statement discuss the challenges posed by modern OpenSSL. We discuss the statement and their relationship with OpenSSL. We chat about some of the current features in cryptography, as well as some of what’s coming in the future. It’s a fun conversation that hits on a lot of great points. Episode Links Alex Paul pyca/cryptography The State of OpenSSL for pyca/cryptography x509-limbo Community Cryptography Specification Project This episode is also available as a podcast, search for “Open Source Security” on your favorite podcast player. ...